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The Russians need to be combated!

Former SPD leader, Vice-Chancellor, and Foreign Minister, Sigmar Gabriel (64), delivers a clearer message on the significance of the Ukraine conflict than his counterparts, including Chancellor Olaf Scholz (64), during an interview with ZDF talk show host Maybrit Illner (59).

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May 31, 2024
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The guests on Illner on Thursday (from left to right): Former Vice-Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel,...
The guests on Illner on Thursday (from left to right): Former Vice-Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel, Russia expert Sabine Fischer, talk show host Maybrit Illner and foreign policy expert Roderich Kiesewetter

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Gabriel discusses Illner. - The Russians need to be combated!

His urgent message: "If Putin prevails, be it on the battlefield or at the bargaining table, then that would just make him more ambitious. Then he'll keep going!"

"More Than Just Ukraine"

"Russia is attempting to defy the West in various areas across the globe presently," cautioned Gabriel. "I believe the conflict is significantly larger than Ukraine alone!"

"Consequently," continued the former Vice-Chancellor, "we'll require a response well beyond military measures. In essence, we must counter the Russians like we did with the Soviet Union before."

"A Resemblance to a Cat and Mouse Game"

"It's a bit like a game of cat and mouse," grumbled the long-serving SPD member. "And unfortunately, we're the mouse. Each time an armed conflict stops in a certain location, Putin begins another one, and we react to him."

Ruedginger expressed his concern about the persistent refusal of the Chancellor to support the use of German weapons within Russian territory. "If the United States alters their standpoint, Scholz will too," he predicted. "That's also rational." The fact that NATO is deliberating on whether the Americans have a different outlook will eventually lead him to change his standpoint.

Is the Fear of Nuclear Weapons Exaggerated?

"The Chancellor needs to modify herself," urged fellow foreign policy expert Roderich Kiesewetter (60, CDU). "The critical factor is that countries around us are clear: we must also act on Russian soil. I believe Germany needs to swap places."

Retired US General and Defense Advisor Ben Hodges (66) guessed what drove their hesitance. "I believe both leaders are overwhelmed by the fear that Russia may unleash nuclear weapons. But the chances of that happening are slim. The benefit for Russia is in making threats," he explained.

A Step in the Right Direction

Shortly before, CDU foreign policy expert Norbert Röttgen (58) saw the Chancellor's recent statement ("always within the framework of international law") about German arm deliveries as a "noticeable change in position".

Russia specialist Sabine Fischer (55) concurred: Scholz had already "made a minor move in that direction."

A Significant Moment

"This is a historically significant moment," remarked Presidential Adviser Mychajlo Podoljak (52), connecting from Kiev. "And every significant moment possesses its own logic. We can address whether those in charge proceed more gradually, Olaf Scholz or Biden. Nonetheless, they'll make the required decisions."

His admonition: "The Ukrainians should use the weapons on Russian territory. Otherwise, this war will persist. Russia will consistently be aggressive. The quicker we can halt Russia, the lowered the worldwide escalations' expense will be."

Accomplished Expectations

Minutes after Röttgen expressed his optimistic outlook, Illner relayed the following news: "Currently, there's a message that the US government is prepared to sanction Ukraine's use of Western weapons on Russian territory in the Kharkiv region." This news perfectly matched the aspirations of Gabriel, Kiesewetter and their allies.

Foreign policy expert Roderich Kiesewetter

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